# The Free Odds Bet

Again, I am sure about my counting and the only thing would be a shallow penetration or software that does not use randomly a full deck of cards. Note that you must bet the same amount on a split, unlike a double-down where you are allowed to double for less. Hello Again, I stumbled across this hand index recently on a 8 deck shoe with good rules when am I supposed to double down on a hard 12 against 5 and 6. Blazing 7's Please see my page on Blazing 7's. In contrast, we know that two wins in a row will always save our bacon. But first, I'd like to offer an analogy to help illustrate misconceptions about what public protection safeguards are likely to amount to once large sums of money have legally changed hands.

To beat the dealer the player must first not bust go over 21 and second either outscore the dealer or have the dealer bust. Here are the full rules of the game. I've been preaching for years that to play blackjack properly requires memorizing the basic strategy.

However, after pitching the basic strategy for 20 years, I've learned that few people have the will to memorize it. In my book, Gambling , I presented a "Simple Strategy," which is seven simple rules to playing blackjack. The cost due to incorrect plays with the Simple Strategy is 0. Ever since my book was published it has bothered me that the cost in errors to my Simple Strategy was too high.

So in September I developed the following "Wizard's Strategy. That is the cost of one hand for about every 12 hours of play. Compared to the cells in the Basic Strategy, the Wizard's Strategy has only 21, as follows. I continue to get Emails saying that when this strategy was used with my practice game , the player was corrected for following it. For example, my simple strategy says to stand on 12 against a 2, when it is mathematically better to hit.

If you want to learn a strategy that is correct all the time you should use the appropriate basic strategy for the set of rules you are playing. Here are some comments of clarification. A "hard" hand is one that either has no aces, or has aces that are forced to count as point, lest the hand bust.

A "soft" hand is one with at least one ace, which may still count as one or eleven points. With a hard 10 or 11, double if you have more points than the dealer, treating a dealer ace as 11 points.

Specifically, double with 10 against a 2 to 9, and with 11 against 2 to If the strategy says to double, but you have three or more cards, or table rules don't allow soft doubling, then hit, except stand with a soft If the strategy says to surrender 16 vs. If the strategy says to "not split," then treat the hand has a hard total of 8, 10, or 20, according to the pair in question.

A reader named Jeff provided another table of my simple strategy, with exceptions in small print. Details about the Wizard's Simple Strategy can be found in my Blackjack appendix See my Blackjack House Edge Calculator to determine the house edge under 6, possible rule combinations. Following is a list of some common rule variations and the effect on the player's expected return compared to standard U.

Rule Variations Rule Effect Single deck 0. Beware Short Pays on a Blackjack More and more tables are showing up that pay less than the full 3 to 2 on a blackjack.

Most of these tables pay 6 to 5, but some even money and 7 to 5 tables are known to exist. In my opinion, only games that pay 3 to 2 deserve to be called "blackjack," the rest fall under "21" games, including Super Fun 21 and Spanish Regardless of the other rules, you should demand nothing less than 3 to 2 blackjack.

You should always check the felt to be sure, and if the felt doesn't say, look for a sign. If nothing says the win on a blackjack, then ask. Three popular bad strategies encountered at the blackjack table are: All three are very bad strategies. Following are my specific comments on each of them, including the house edge under Atlantic City rules dealer stands on soft 17, split up to 4 hands, double after split, double any two cards of 0. For my analysis of this strategy I assumed the player would never hit a hard 12 or more.

All other decisions were according to correct basic strategy. This "never bust" strategy results in a house edge of 3. For my analysis of this strategy I assumed the player would always hit 16 or less and stand on17 or more, including a soft The player never doubled or split, since the dealer is not allowed to do so. This "mimic the dealer" strategy results in a house edge of 5. Assume a ten in the hole: For this strategy I first figured out the optimal basic strategy under this assumption. If the dealer had an ace up, then I reverted to proper basic strategy, because the dealer would have peeked for blackjack, making a 10 impossible.

This "assume a ten" strategy results in a house edge of Wizard of Odds uses cookies, this enables us to provide you with a personalised experience. More Info Got It! Enter your email address below to subscribe to our weekly newsletter along with other special announcements from The Wizard of Odds!

The Wizard of Odds. Total dependent expected return table for an infinite deck 2a: Probabilities of dealer blackjack after peek 2b: Probabilities of dealer blackjack before peek 3a: Exceptions to single-deck S17 basic strategy 3b: Exceptions to double-deck S17 basic strategy 3c: Exceptions to single-deck H17 basic strategy 4: Blackjack standard deviation details 5: You probably already know this, but as good as the Trainer is, it has a few fawls.

Such as when a high card appears just about every time like clockwork it equals This makes the Trainer seem to have somewhat unrealistic outcomes. I would like this because I was playing the App and stayed on 16 vs a dealer 10 in a high true count and it said my play was wrong.

I think this would be a cool addition. Can someone post the correct basic strategy deviatons for a hard 10? Someone please correct me if I am wrong. I noticed the trainer looked different and saw that it had been updated. No, you are likely being confused by the way it pays the bet and then rebets the same amount. I know that my question may be silly, but I am looking for simple methods to win, the casino give us a lot of possibilities and it confuses. The worst blackjack rule give more opportunities than other games.

Which rules are best? Winning balance always goes the line of sinusoid. Thought you should know. See notes from others as well. This new version has bugs. Playing 6D, H17, LS.

I made sure the new site owners are aware of these comments. So with Ace,7 vs a dealer 5, you would double. With 3,4,Ace you would stand, because doubling is not allowed after you hit. Same situation on the I-pad version and the I-Mac desktop version, inability to hit the second hand after splitting..

Sometimes when I split aces I only receive one card on the first ace and no card on the second ace. Just wondering if anyone else is getting errors such as these. Now that the message boards are reopened, these kinds of questions will get faster and more accurate answers there. I too find the white border glaring and gives me a headache.

Needs to be toned down or different color softer on the eyes. Your trainer is the best out there that I have been using these past 30 years. It amazes me to see soo many players play by the seat of their pants having not a clue what they are doing.

CVCX is a slightly less expensive option that handles many simulation questions. While this improvement is small, every little bit helps. For a card counter, surrender is considerably more valuable for several reasons. The amount of benefit surrender provides for a counter depends on almost everything that can change in the game, penetration, bet spread, etc.

If you need an answer, get some software to check your specific conditions. See Blackjack Surrender Explained. What are they doing to this site? What happened to the original strategy page, where you selected the number of decks and dealer hits or stands on soft 17 etc.? The Strategy Engine is still where it has been for years: I recommend posting this question on the newly re-opened blackjack forums to see if anyone can run a simulation for you with these conditions and betting strategy.

In the short run, if you are lucky you will win. If you are unlucky you will lose. But you always have the best chance by playing correctly. Again, I am sure about my counting and the only thing would be a shallow penetration or software that does not use randomly a full deck of cards. Or where am I wrong? You would only expect to reach the exact expected end count if you saw every card in the deck.

The trainer mimics what you will see in a real casino, shuffling after the end of the hand where the 35th card is dealt in the single deck game. The deck s are normal, and randomly shuffled. Is that because of penetration or??? I really enjoy your practice platform. I was wondering, can we play online and make money or should we avoid that and only play in casinos?

Card counting is not much of an option online, although the possibility does exist in the live-dealer games that a few places offer. The bonuses and promotions can also be profitable sometimes, but these days it is tough to get an actual positive play at online casinos.

So it really depends on what you want from the game. All set now, and back to work. Will you post something in this section when the new version is out? I want to wait and get the latest.

In the mean time what book or video do you recommend on winning at blackjack? I have only played about 5 times not counting cards at the casinos on the 21 plus 3 card tables and have had some decent luck, especially the 3 card bet and would like to learn a bit more about that betting too. Thanks for your practice game, it has been helpful. Things can certainly change quickly. BlackjackInfo has a new owner who took over this month. I know the new team has some excellent resources available for blackjack trainer software.

If you are referring to the other product on this page, Casino Verite is not involved in these changes, and the latest version is available as always at the provided Amazon links. Going to Vegas in Sept. I have basic strategy down. If you plan to count, you will need to look a lot harder to find decent regular shuffled games at that level. The first thing to check is make sure that blackjack pays 3: Check TI for some decent low-limit blackjack tables, or look downtown. The rules are generally going to be 6 deck or 8 deck, dealer hits soft 17, no surrender.

Yes, you are right that Flash is dying. My development of the new mobile-friendly HTML5 version has been stalled a bit while my family prepares to move this summer. And yes, I get about an equal number of complaints about the game being rigged to be too easy and too hard.

Ken, I just jumped on the trainer after a few months absence. Started reading the comments and noticed that you will be launching a revised version. Any idea of the approximate launch date? Looking forward to the new version. Thanks again for a great strategy trainer! I will resume development in August, so I now expect a launch in the fall at the earliest. Assuming the same rules, BS, and betting pattern? If prior history is repeated, I will be inundated with emails asking why I made the game so much harder to beat, along with an equal number asking why I made it so much easier to beat!

That would be called luck. What algorithm is used for card shuffling? I think the trainer play along me. When is using late surrender with the dealer ace trainer first offers surrendering instead of insurance. And again I continue to win. May be there is a reason to imitate dealers shuffling, instead of mathematical random shuffling.

You may be right about the surrender issue, although it is possible that the surrender may only work if the dealer does NOT have blackjack. Is there an iOS app version of this trainer for my iPad? Please email your response. The new mobile-friendly version is coming along slowly. I now think early Summer is the target. Emailed also as requested. Suggestion for future versions of your Strategy Trainer; ties push, rather than dealer wins all ties….?

The current Strategy Trainer works just fine in this regard. Ties are a push. You are being confused by the way the bankroll is adjusted up when the bet is returned to your bankroll, and then down by the bet being made again.

If you happen to look at the wrong moment, you only see the second half of that transaction. It works as it should. Yes, you can play as many spots as you like at the table in Casino Verite. And you can choose to have other spots played by automated players if you like.

There is no download for the trainer here. If your device is not compatible with Flash, the current version hosted here on this page will not work. How come when you split Aces and then get another Ace the program will not let you split beyond two hands that is a flaw that needs to be corrected asap.

Yes, there is a problem with split Aces in the current version. A completely new trainer is in development and coming along nicely. Ive been playing on your trainer web getting ready to go to the casino. I noticed that amount won many times is not added to the total. I thoutht maybe I was making a mistake but after careful watching of several hundred hands I confirmed that to be the case. Kind of makes me wonder if the rest of the software has a problem.

Check it out and let me know what gives. No, there is no problem with the paying of winning hands in the free game. The confusion comes from the way that your balance increases after the hand, and then immediately decreases again as the next bet is automatically made. Many people only notice the second part and think their balance is going down after a winning hand. Single deck, S17, DAS, 15 vs According to your B.

What it the correct play? Does the discrepancy have to do with hand composition? The correct strategy is hit. I checked the source for the trainer, and it does appear this is a bug. In 2 or more decks S17 LS, you should surrender 15vT. In 1 deck S17 LS, you should hit. The trainer is inaccurate, only in the one deck version. Thanks for pointing this out. Another option which might be nice for the next version: Those questions are going to depend on your edge and how willing you are to play with an advantage for these long periods.

See my other reply for advice on software or books to answer those questions. Your advantage is going to heavily depend on your bet spread, and the bet ramp. CVData software , to accurately sim any game and counting system, or the book Blackjack Attack for a ton of pre-figured stats on many games. Something I noticed is that the dealer will still hit even if their first two cards have a greater total than mine and its under No sane dealer in real life would hit when they already have a total greater than yours, right?

The dealer must follow the strict rules on hitting, and cannot choose to stand on a stiff total just because he would beat you. For more, see Blackjack Rules. Thanks for the BJ game. The black letters on the green are a little hard for me to see. Hi, can i use the basic srategy playing rng bj like the one playtech offer in many different online casino, will it have the same effect as playing live casino? How about an option to turn off the card total display? I have a LONG way to go yet.

It would be stellar if the trainer could be configured to only deal the most difficult combinations for the player. The strategy engine on hitorsplit.

I was wondering what should a player do if he lost the count of the cards dealt and does the count have to always be exact? The count does not have to be exact, but there are a few really dangerous mistakes you can make. If for example, you flip the sign, turning a negative count into a positive count, that would make you bet bigger money into bad situations.

Obviously an expensive mistake. If you truly lose all track of where the count is, just flat-bet the minimum until the shuffle. Thank you very much I was also wondering should a player enter the deck just as it has been shuffled and if not how should a player determine a count when there is only half of the deck to start with? You can start any time during the shuffle. Just think of the cards already in the discard tray as being behind the cut card instead. But everything works just the same.

I was also wondering how should a player go about betting when counting say the minimum bet is 2 and the maximum 10 with the bankroll of at what count would you advise to increase bets from the minimum? Doubling down gives a chance to double the amount of your bet after seeing your first two cards.

You mentioned a hand with a total of 10 in the first two cards. For a full explanation of doubling, see Blackjack Rules: Part 3 — Player Choices.

A new question regarding Lucky Lucky. I tried searching it up and apparently the Lucky Lucky LL bet is a profitable game when card counting is taken into consideration apparently 2 deck is best for it. If you are expecting a bunch of face cards to peel off, or blackjacks and the dealer has a 10, you can still win those bets fairly often.

Hello Again, I recently finished my first month of card counting adventures. There have been times where I have bet 20 units and lost 80 units from splits and dd. With your experience, what do you think a general estimated or spread would make hourly in betting units? Hello thanks for previous answers, new question! I have a relatively small bankroll and comps and match plays really make a huge impact on my future game have not frequented many times yet , but wanted to clarify some thoughts.

Match plays offer a huge boost for low limit players. In fact the edge from coupons will often dwarf the rest of your advantage. Knowing that the probability of the next card being a 10 and more often busting than improving you, should you stand and pray the dealer has 6 or less and take that 10?

Or do you always hit since too many cards improve you and refer to basic strategy? Just always hit 12, 13, and 14 vs Ten.

For 12vT and 13vT, the count basically never gets high enough to stand. With 14vT, the appropriate Hi-Lo index would be very high. Stand at 0 or higher.

My Advanced cards have very precise indexes for 6 different sets of rules. Just started playing and want to get really good at black jack can u install a cheat such as best times to stay or hit? So it becomes instinct after playing a few hundred hands. I assume you mean you would like a feature optional of course that shows you the correct play before you make the decision. The trainer already corrects you on mistakes, but I can see how some people may like an option to just see the best play beforehand.

Sort of like learning with flashcards. Sounds reasonable for the new version. I like it like it is. If you add the flashcard type version I hope you would make it an option like choosing how many decks, etc.

If it were permanent I think I would think less before hitting, standing, or doubling down. Can you make an option to get rid of the count? Adding them in my head helps me train. Overall this is my favorite trainer so far.

No firm timeframe yet for the new version, but I know it is months away still. Hey Ken, its Brutus from the old forums. I never tried to play the game with the screen looking like it does. I just thought it looked so much different. I called my son and had him bring up the game, while Im talking to him I hit the play button, it delt the cards.

Stupid me , but I like the old screen better. I cant figure how to get rid of that stuff on the right and bring the game over. I would first check to see if your system can run at a higher resolution. At some point, the sidebar will reposition to below the game. Let me know if either of these ideas works.

Another thing to try is the Italian link to the game. Can you describe what you see instead of what you expect? Do you have Flash player installed and running in your browser? You can test that, and see your Flash version number here: I really appreciate the Android app. I asked several months ago when an app for my Samsung tablet would be available. You promised it was in the works.

Thanks for following through. I misunderstood the app link — I thought it was you. I retract all my kudos and return to waiting mode. Got a couple of questions about strategy in such a situation;. Appreciate your help and any rationale you can provide for choices in these situations given the conditions of the table at which I shall be trying my luck.

You can get a complete strategy chart for this exact game here: To answer your questions: The answers to 2 and 4 would change with peek, right? And I do understand how vulnerable all players are with European style no peek.

Answers 2 and 4 change with peek. It can be confusing! The next version of the trainer will make more information available about the rule choices. I think there are some flaws in your basic strategy regarding early surrender. The game recommended I surrender with 12 vs a dealer ace. It also recommended I surrender with a 7 vs an ace.

To learn more, see my article Blackjack Surrender Explained. The game has been slow and jerky the last few days. I have a very fast internet connection so I know the problem must be at your end. Once the current version of the trainer is loaded and running, it runs locally on your machine.

Something has to be causing Flash to run slowly on your machine. Note that this will work completely differently in the eventual new version, which will be interacting with the server to provide additional features.

Splitting 4s vs a dealer 5 or 6 is better only when the rules allow double after split. If the actual numbers would help, here they are for a 6-deck S17 DAS game: Splitting 44v6 wins 0. Doubling makes only 0. You mention hitting 13v2, which is not correct. You probably meant hitting 12 against a 2 or a 3 up.